Hi Everyone!

I work for a company of around 140 people, with no dedicated training person/department.  I've finally managed to get the Partners to see the value in having an Internal Trainer so they've given me the go-ahead to start writing a job description...

Whilst this person will be part of the HR department (team of 2), it will be pretty much a stand-alone role. The Partners want someone experienced in the whole training cycle, someone who can come in and be able to do a full TNA, create training from scratch and competently deliver to all levels of the business (Senior Management included). 

I'm stuck on the requirements though.....my Manager has put that they must be Associate CIPD, but I'm not sure if that's 100% essential? I kind of see this as one of those roles where experience trumps qualifications? Obviously would be nice to have both but I see the qualification as a nice to have. Also, are there any specific/well recognised qualifications that I should look for?  (Sorry, dedicated training is still new to me!)

Thanks in advance!

Becky

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  • Hi Becky. Hi Emma (*waving at you both!)

    I agree with Emma a level 3 CIPD qualification is probably the sort of level you're looking at. I can understand you see this being desirable rather than essential but I'm leaning towards the essential side. I often see people heading into training focusing on the delivery side initially. It's exactly what I did. I saw others delivering training and thought that would be something I'd like to do. When I got the chance to do it, I did it, reasonably well. At the time, I probably thought I could have applied for any job as a 'trainer'.  However, over time I began to realise there was much more to training that just delivering. The rest of the training cycle contains so much more that ordinarily people don't learn about straight away and in many cases develop their knowledge over years.

    So you could look at someone that has a fair amount of 'training' experience, but how much experience do they really have beyond delivery. Do they understand, and really understand TNA? Do they know how to evaluate training interventions? Do they know how to be a business partner well focusing instead just on delivery and more on performance improvements? How up to date are they with the 21st century learning? How well connected are they and how engaged in their own CPD are they?

    For me, the CIPD stamp on a CV tells me that they have enough knowledge of the whole to be able to qualify successfully. I think this will be important considering how stand-alone the role is, how they will be expected to work as a business partner and with senior levels.

    If you do think CIPD is optional, I'd say make sure your JD really spells out some of the skills/behaviours required to support the other areas of the training cycle and that your selection process hones in on these. I have seen on JD's before, CIPD Level 3 L&D or similar qualification. There are others out there. My advice would be to make sure they have one that covers all bases.

    Hope that helps?

    • Hi Ady,

      Thanks for the feedback - I see what you mean and when you put it like that I guess a qualification should be more of a definite! A guess a good mix of the two is needed...

      Think I'll add it on and see what we get; agreed that seeing the CIPD on a CV says a lot. :)

      Thanks very much!

      Becky 

  • Hi Becky - it might be worth going onto a job site and pinching bits from any JDs you come across, that might help you. Perhaps you could put that a qualification is desirable, but that experience is an essential criteria?

    I'm not an expert on qualifications, but if you are wanting a dedicated trainer, a level 3 CIPD qualification may be sufficient, as that covers off the training cycle, design and delivery etc. If however you are wanting someone that can do those things, but also be more of a manager or business partner and create learning strategies etc, you might find a level 5 CIPD is the better option.

    Good luck!

    • Thanks, Emma - great minds! I've been going through Reed this morning to look at other job specs and have got lots of ideas from those, but only one actually says CIPD qualified, the others don't mention anything about qualifications which is what confused me.  I guess like you said, I could just add something to say a relevant qualification is desirable. 

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